Hi,
I own artisteer and my question is if it is possible to use it with Builder. Artisteer exports to wordpress, HTML Page, ASP Net Application, and CodeCharge Studio?
Thanks,
Gavin
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Posted 21 February 2010 - 07:32 AM
Hi,
I do not know what artisteer is, but Builder is "just" a WordPress theme, with backend functionality to set up your site just the way you want it.
Ronald
I do not know what artisteer is, but Builder is "just" a WordPress theme, with backend functionality to set up your site just the way you want it.
Ronald
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 05:25 PM
Hi Ronald,
artisteer is a premium theme design tool similar to the builder plugin you have in beta, (couldn't find it, so maybe it has been pulled) and is a highly reguarded theme building tool. The difference between you and them is your emphasis is page layout, their emphasis is the theme look itself.
You both have similar pay-structures (yearly subscription) and licencing, which I like, as I think this will help continue the development of the template/software, etc. So right now, you are more complementary products than compeditors, although it wouldn't hurt you to have some idea who they are.
Looking at the builder webinar rollout, there was mention of developing an import function for builder and I understand it hasn''t been around all that long. So my question is part does it do this, and if not, what kind of support can I expect in the private members area.
artisteer is a premium theme design tool similar to the builder plugin you have in beta, (couldn't find it, so maybe it has been pulled) and is a highly reguarded theme building tool. The difference between you and them is your emphasis is page layout, their emphasis is the theme look itself.
You both have similar pay-structures (yearly subscription) and licencing, which I like, as I think this will help continue the development of the template/software, etc. So right now, you are more complementary products than compeditors, although it wouldn't hurt you to have some idea who they are.
Looking at the builder webinar rollout, there was mention of developing an import function for builder and I understand it hasn''t been around all that long. So my question is part does it do this, and if not, what kind of support can I expect in the private members area.
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:11 PM
Gavin,
I've been wondering the same question. Aristeer is great for site look and feel but lacks the plugin, widget control of the Builder Theme. It would be nice to be able to use the power of both tools. I look forward to the response from the Builder team.
jeff
I've been wondering the same question. Aristeer is great for site look and feel but lacks the plugin, widget control of the Builder Theme. It would be nice to be able to use the power of both tools. I look forward to the response from the Builder team.
jeff
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Posted 22 February 2010 - 06:22 PM
Short answer: no.
Long answer: Since Builder would have to be the active theme (it supplies the rendering engine), the only way this would work is if Artisteer exported Builder child themes. Since Artisteer doesn't, this wouldn't work.
Long answer: Since Builder would have to be the active theme (it supplies the rendering engine), the only way this would work is if Artisteer exported Builder child themes. Since Artisteer doesn't, this wouldn't work.
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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:28 PM
Hi,
thanks for the sadly expected answer. So the next question becomes, how modifyable are the existing child themes or is this the best route to go?
In the webinar, the developer built a web-site to mimic his existing blog, but it looks like he did it all by way of hand coding, correct? So building the look in artisteer and then reproducing the look in beta should be at least partially achievable by way of hand edits? And is it possible to create and save your own child themes?
Where did your theme look beta disappear to? Is that going to become part of builder or is it a seperate product?
Assume I am going to buy your product, btw, I'm a function over form guy, but it's basically impossible not to look at your product and think of using it with artisteer.
thanks for the sadly expected answer. So the next question becomes, how modifyable are the existing child themes or is this the best route to go?
In the webinar, the developer built a web-site to mimic his existing blog, but it looks like he did it all by way of hand coding, correct? So building the look in artisteer and then reproducing the look in beta should be at least partially achievable by way of hand edits? And is it possible to create and save your own child themes?
Where did your theme look beta disappear to? Is that going to become part of builder or is it a seperate product?
Assume I am going to buy your product, btw, I'm a function over form guy, but it's basically impossible not to look at your product and think of using it with artisteer.
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:50 AM
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Ronald said:
Hi,
I do not know what artisteer is, but Builder is "just" a WordPress theme, with backend functionality to set up your site just the way you want it.
Ronald
Hi,
I do not know what artisteer is, but Builder is "just" a WordPress theme, with backend functionality to set up your site just the way you want it.
Ronald
This could be something really useful!
Thanks,
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Posted 24 February 2010 - 05:10 PM
Hi,
I did go ahead and buy. For the artisteer owners, and fence sitters, I just took a very brief tour of the members area and from what I saw, it has a very comprehensive and helpful set of tutorials and excellent support - especially for newbie, or someone like myself who hasn't built a Wordpress site in a couple of years and has to go back and relearn the new basics.
The plug-in I was looking for is called "Style manager" (beta) which I'm guessing/hoping they will develop into something along the lines of artisteer. They are working on the export/import function which looks like it is targeted for their child themes only, while understandable, the ability to bring in an already built artisteer "style" would make this product much more attractive to existing artisteer owners and web developers in general.
Here's to the first guy ever to stick chocolate into peanut butter.
I did go ahead and buy. For the artisteer owners, and fence sitters, I just took a very brief tour of the members area and from what I saw, it has a very comprehensive and helpful set of tutorials and excellent support - especially for newbie, or someone like myself who hasn't built a Wordpress site in a couple of years and has to go back and relearn the new basics.
The plug-in I was looking for is called "Style manager" (beta) which I'm guessing/hoping they will develop into something along the lines of artisteer. They are working on the export/import function which looks like it is targeted for their child themes only, while understandable, the ability to bring in an already built artisteer "style" would make this product much more attractive to existing artisteer owners and web developers in general.
Here's to the first guy ever to stick chocolate into peanut butter.
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 12:18 AM
I was wondering the same kind of stuff. I just picked up the Artisteer trial and it eats up my 4Gb of laptop memory! I found all the glares, backgrounds,textures, and colors pretty cool in this program. It's time consuming in the beginning when you play around with it, but what isn't these days. I def. need modulue control though.
This program designs sites for WP,Joom, Dot Net Nuke - another CMS I found very interesting that I want to use for static site of mine.
I'm assuming you could make a layout you like and transfer the files to your builder themes directory as well as merge the css style sheet to get the desired look?
Putting html in module containers is a major plus with Builder I think...
This program designs sites for WP,Joom, Dot Net Nuke - another CMS I found very interesting that I want to use for static site of mine.
I'm assuming you could make a layout you like and transfer the files to your builder themes directory as well as merge the css style sheet to get the desired look?
Putting html in module containers is a major plus with Builder I think...
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Posted 15 March 2010 - 03:58 PM
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Short answer: no.
Long answer: Since Builder would have to be the active theme (it supplies the rendering engine), the only way this would work is if Artisteer exported Builder child themes. Since Artisteer doesn't, this wouldn't work.
Short answer: no.
Long answer: Since Builder would have to be the active theme (it supplies the rendering engine), the only way this would work is if Artisteer exported Builder child themes. Since Artisteer doesn't, this wouldn't work.
Hi,
this more or less sums it up. Chris Jean is the code guru (or was it ninja?) behind Builder.
Ronald
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Posted 08 April 2010 - 03:13 PM
I own both, as well as some competing premium themes.
For simple, quick and dirty themes with really basic sidebars, I can whip out a custom theme in Artisteer in about 10 minutes. Seriously, that fast, matching the colors to the client's logo etc. Rounded corners? Not a problem. Heavy code, though, but fully compatible with just about every browser.
That said, any further functionality, like sliders, or sidebars in the header area, multiple bottom sidebars, Artisteer isn't going to do the job without a bunch of coding.
Builder, on the other hand, can handle the the advanced widgeting that is becoming commonplace. Using firebug it's fairly easy to determine what css needs to be tweaked to get the look you want. (of course, I don't know how to adapt for IE, so that will probably bite me in the butt sooner or later).
Using Builder with child themes provides for an elegant solution. I've run into a few instances where plugins I really need to use won't work, so I'm a little gun-shy, but I did complete a really nice website for a local marketing consultant. Building the theme with Builder was a snap.
Just my 2¢.
For simple, quick and dirty themes with really basic sidebars, I can whip out a custom theme in Artisteer in about 10 minutes. Seriously, that fast, matching the colors to the client's logo etc. Rounded corners? Not a problem. Heavy code, though, but fully compatible with just about every browser.
That said, any further functionality, like sliders, or sidebars in the header area, multiple bottom sidebars, Artisteer isn't going to do the job without a bunch of coding.
Builder, on the other hand, can handle the the advanced widgeting that is becoming commonplace. Using firebug it's fairly easy to determine what css needs to be tweaked to get the look you want. (of course, I don't know how to adapt for IE, so that will probably bite me in the butt sooner or later).
Using Builder with child themes provides for an elegant solution. I've run into a few instances where plugins I really need to use won't work, so I'm a little gun-shy, but I did complete a really nice website for a local marketing consultant. Building the theme with Builder was a snap.
Just my 2¢.
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